May 15, 2012 ihusain265 Says:
I would also like to apologize for offending you anyway with my take on the situation. I admit that the comment was confrontational, but I don't like commenting without an opposition. I hope you can understand
May 15, 2012 ihusain265 Says:
I wasn't implying that it was the smartphones fault either. The rebels are a product of their environment. If large electronics companies would acknowledge the origin of their raw materials, I feel that there would be a decrease in funding of these illegitimate coltan mines. I did see the video by vice.tv and the mines operated by the government are of much higher working conditions. Electronics companies should make a push to limit their coltan supply to just the government inspected mines.
May 11, 2012 schlagerhansi Says:
Excuse me; but if you take a closer look, you'll find that those "rebel groups" consist of tribes who rebel against the so-called central government. And if there were no coltan mines, they would be funded by something/someone else. Don't blame the smartphones!
May 11, 2012 ihusain265 Says:
I don't think that this is about tribal warfare, this is about rebel groups, and the coltan mining funds these groups. You should probably read more than just the title
Jan 12, 2012 gamesgoodfirebad Says:
There's been war everywhere for the longest(America is at war now) d-bag,the discussion was about minerals increasing the problem.As the guest Congolese man stated minerals aren't the real problem.I guess you're trying to make yourself feel better about aiding murder........ facts are facts,and I wouldn't be surprised If you fancy iron crosses.
Jan 5, 2012 eyesea Says:
no, its a problem with the people who support exploitation like this. additionally, western governments cover up events in these parts of the world, especially when big campaign contributors are involved. the same people who drive the market for coltan buy buying consumer electronics are the people that vote in the gov'ts that collude with the companies they buy from (but also work for too). but the consequences cant be hidden forever and when they hit home people will learn.
Jan 5, 2012 Ex0dus111 Says:
Uve just pointed at the issue with all of global capitalism.
Jan 4, 2012 schlagerhansi Says:
Total crap.
There has been tribal warfare in the Congo as long as I can remember, in fact as long as any written history reaches back, i.e. long before there were any smartphones in the world.
The Congolese tribes have only themselves to blame.
Jan 4, 2012 youngbuck189 Says:
These types of discussions do not solve anything. If you want to know what really happens in Congo, google, youtube and facebook KEITH HARMON SNOW and KAMBALE MUSAVULI.
Keith is a independant journalist who has been to Congo and over 20 African countries.
Kambale is a Congolese man who is Student Coordinator and National Spokesmen for Friends of the Congo.
Search for them, find their works and speeches, particularly Keith. You will learn what is really happening in Congo, in full detail.
Jan 4, 2012 deadlizard64 Says:
wow, I knew it was 1997.
Now I need to find it on a map
Jan 4, 2012 BuckleyCoons Says:
I gotta get me a smartphone.
Jan 4, 2012 eyesea Says:
if things were done ethically the cost of doing business would explode for those there.. mining companies arent going to do things to multiply cost
Jan 4, 2012 Ex0dus111 Says:
I think the Congolese gentleman made the best point, even though they tried to stear the conversation away from it.
Its not about the Minerals, in fact wealth going into Congo is not unilaterally a negative, as there are mines working with better conditions for the miners. But certain warlords in certain areas are the issue, it would be wrong for us to try to cut down on Congolese imports of minerals as that would cut across the board and affect the nation as a whole, not just these warlords.
Jan 4, 2012 Ex0dus111 Says:
Really good show this. Ill be sure to keep watching.
Jan 4, 2012 514SpaceMonkey Says:
Not exactly. We, as consumers, are part of the problem but the corporations and governments involved have more responsibility IMO there is no fair-trade Coltan option that I know of.
Jan 4, 2012 shyF0x Says:
its funny how africa has diamonds and gold but we cant buy it.....cuz if we wanna trade it somehow becomes our fault they kill each other?
Jan 4, 2012 shyF0x Says:
this was kinda shitty....ur slippin al jazzy
that girl looks like a gorilla lol
Jan 4, 2012 amduke8 Says:
In a sense, when extending this theory every products in the west is somehow funding the African conflict; ie. raw materials.
Jan 4, 2012 obiyoukenobi Says:
Funny how the whole studio is filled with laptops and flatscreens originating from those same mines..
Jan 4, 2012 514SpaceMonkey Says:
vice.tv did an in-depth report about this 3 or 4 months ago "the vice guide to Congo". Although this is informative as well, vice takes you deep in the middle of the Congo where the mining takes place.
Jan 4, 2012 declaration963 Says:
Interesting to watch, but in conclusion, EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED, since the "money" itself circling worldwide.
Jan 4, 2012 PSCreativeGaming Says:
Cool im funding a war. Just take footage of it so i can see u blacks shoot at eachother lol.
Jan 4, 2012 Redfingers Says:
Oh so purchasing smartphones, because of their mineral components, some of the money goes to African warlords?
Confusing headline is confusing
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ihusain265 Says:
I would also like to apologize for offending you anyway with my take on the situation. I admit that the comment was confrontational, but I don't like commenting without an opposition. I hope you can understand
ihusain265 Says:
I wasn't implying that it was the smartphones fault either. The rebels are a product of their environment. If large electronics companies would acknowledge the origin of their raw materials, I feel that there would be a decrease in funding of these illegitimate coltan mines. I did see the video by vice.tv and the mines operated by the government are of much higher working conditions. Electronics companies should make a push to limit their coltan supply to just the government inspected mines.
schlagerhansi Says:
Excuse me; but if you take a closer look, you'll find that those "rebel groups" consist of tribes who rebel against the so-called central government. And if there were no coltan mines, they would be funded by something/someone else. Don't blame the smartphones!
ihusain265 Says:
I don't think that this is about tribal warfare, this is about rebel groups, and the coltan mining funds these groups. You should probably read more than just the title
gamesgoodfirebad Says:
There's been war everywhere for the longest(America is at war now) d-bag,the discussion was about minerals increasing the problem.As the guest Congolese man stated minerals aren't the real problem.I guess you're trying to make yourself feel better about aiding murder........ facts are facts,and I wouldn't be surprised If you fancy iron crosses.
eyesea Says:
no, its a problem with the people who support exploitation like this. additionally, western governments cover up events in these parts of the world, especially when big campaign contributors are involved. the same people who drive the market for coltan buy buying consumer electronics are the people that vote in the gov'ts that collude with the companies they buy from (but also work for too). but the consequences cant be hidden forever and when they hit home people will learn.
Ex0dus111 Says:
Uve just pointed at the issue with all of global capitalism.
schlagerhansi Says:
Total crap. There has been tribal warfare in the Congo as long as I can remember, in fact as long as any written history reaches back, i.e. long before there were any smartphones in the world. The Congolese tribes have only themselves to blame.
youngbuck189 Says:
These types of discussions do not solve anything. If you want to know what really happens in Congo, google, youtube and facebook KEITH HARMON SNOW and KAMBALE MUSAVULI. Keith is a independant journalist who has been to Congo and over 20 African countries. Kambale is a Congolese man who is Student Coordinator and National Spokesmen for Friends of the Congo. Search for them, find their works and speeches, particularly Keith. You will learn what is really happening in Congo, in full detail.
deadlizard64 Says:
wow, I knew it was 1997. Now I need to find it on a map
BuckleyCoons Says:
I gotta get me a smartphone.
eyesea Says:
if things were done ethically the cost of doing business would explode for those there.. mining companies arent going to do things to multiply cost
Ex0dus111 Says:
I think the Congolese gentleman made the best point, even though they tried to stear the conversation away from it. Its not about the Minerals, in fact wealth going into Congo is not unilaterally a negative, as there are mines working with better conditions for the miners. But certain warlords in certain areas are the issue, it would be wrong for us to try to cut down on Congolese imports of minerals as that would cut across the board and affect the nation as a whole, not just these warlords.
Ex0dus111 Says:
Really good show this. Ill be sure to keep watching.
514SpaceMonkey Says:
Not exactly. We, as consumers, are part of the problem but the corporations and governments involved have more responsibility IMO there is no fair-trade Coltan option that I know of.
shyF0x Says:
its funny how africa has diamonds and gold but we cant buy it.....cuz if we wanna trade it somehow becomes our fault they kill each other?
shyF0x Says:
this was kinda shitty....ur slippin al jazzy that girl looks like a gorilla lol
amduke8 Says:
In a sense, when extending this theory every products in the west is somehow funding the African conflict; ie. raw materials.
bloodswetandgears Says:
Pretty Bad journalism...
obiyoukenobi Says:
Funny how the whole studio is filled with laptops and flatscreens originating from those same mines..
514SpaceMonkey Says:
vice.tv did an in-depth report about this 3 or 4 months ago "the vice guide to Congo". Although this is informative as well, vice takes you deep in the middle of the Congo where the mining takes place.
declaration963 Says:
Interesting to watch, but in conclusion, EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED, since the "money" itself circling worldwide.
PSCreativeGaming Says:
Cool im funding a war. Just take footage of it so i can see u blacks shoot at eachother lol.
Redfingers Says:
Oh so purchasing smartphones, because of their mineral components, some of the money goes to African warlords? Confusing headline is confusing